Serenity pushed back to September

Eline · Post by **Eline** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 9:41 pm

Brendocon wrote:It's part of why the film's called Serenity, not "Firefly: The Movie. Of the series. That was cancelled. And that you didn't watch."

So it's partly my fault the series was cancelled.

Hope I can make it up by watching the movie...

Ultimate Weapon · Post by **Ultimate Weapon** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 12:33 am

Im half way through the DVD set and I love this show just as much if not more than Buffy/Angel!

Bender · Post by **Bender** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 1:52 am

Best First wrote:
Brendocon wrote:Even incomplete, the first season is far far far better than the first year of Buffy.
i have yet to see it* but reserve the right to kill for that statement.

cheers.

*adds to xmas list

My goodness, something I completely agree with you on Besty!

As a dedicated Buffyverse fanatic (heck, I once wrote a 25 page graduate school paper on Buffy,) I had my doubts about Firefly when I first heard that Joss was planning to do something not Buffy-related.

Now, having seen several episodes of Firefly, I am a great fan of it as well. I will admit that the first/only season of Firefly is technically tighter than that of Buffy, but then again that is to be expected. Buffy was Joss' first series, and there were definitely kinks to be worked out.

But as a "Buffy Firster" among Joss Whedon fans, I feel compelled to point out that Buffy had only 11 episodes (12 by some accounts) in its first season. And seasons two and three of Buffy (my personal favorites, although all of them were very good) are utter masterpieces.

To be honest, I would love to see Firefly (the series) pull a Family Guy and get resurrected thanks to renewed interest through DVD sales (and Serenity, of course.) Arguing about which Joss series is best to me is like arguing about your favorite child; all are beloved.

As a side note, does anyone else see the resemblance between Joss and Alan Tudyk (Wash)?

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 9:50 am

Bender wrote:I will admit that the first/only season of Firefly is technically tighter than that of Buffy, but then again that is to be expected. Buffy was Joss' first series, and there were definitely kinks to be worked out.

Oh, I won't dispute that. I chose the season 1 comparison because it's the only one that it's really fair to make. Both were the first year of a new series (okay, Angel was technically a new series to, but it was using already-established characters), and both only really had "half" a season.

It would be interesting to see how good the first season of Buffy would be if Joss made it at this stage in his career... but then that would mean him not having made it when he did, and as such the entire learning curve and Mutant Enemy roster changes would have never happened...

Though, the animated series could answer that question. To an extent, of course.

Hypothesis is fun.

Though Firefly being cancelled did mean we got Fillion on Buffy and Edlund transferred to the Angel writing team. So the cancellation wasn't all bad. Silver lining...

Post by **Best First** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 10:26 am

Fillion was great in Buffy - my only concernis that when i finally see Firefly it will be a bit odd seeing him in the good guy role.

Season 7 kicks so much ass. Who are these foolish naysayers?

Dylan · Post by **Dylan** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 10:54 am

* Raises hand *

Oh wait, tha'ts not true. I'm actually starting to like Buffy. Well, the series that is. The character is still quite annoying.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 11:01 am

Fillion's turn as a goodie is great. Mainly because Mal ain't your standard white-hat. If anything, the performance reinforces how brilliant he is as Caleb, and vice versa.

The guy pulls off both roles brilliantly.

Dylan wrote:Oh wait, tha'ts not true. I'm actually starting to like Buffy. Well, the series that is. The character is still quite annoying.

Eh. The central character is the least sympathetic as far as I'm concerned. At least by the end, anyway. Everybody else is great, though.

Eline · Post by **Eline** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 4:30 pm

Dylan wrote:* Raises hand *

Oh wait, tha'ts not true. I'm actually starting to like Buffy. Well, the series that is. The character is still quite annoying.

You should definitely watch the 7th series, it's brilliant!

And the musical episode aswell, maybe some day soon?

Post by **Computron** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 4:52 pm

Best First wrote:Fillion was great in Buffy - my only concernis that when i finally see Firefly it will be a bit odd seeing him in the good guy role.

Worry not fearless leader!

Mercy is the mark of a great man... - Mal

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 7:58 pm

Eline wrote:And the musical episode aswell, maybe some day soon?

You've not seen the musical episode?!?

Shame on you, Dylan. It's 45 minutes of genius from start to finish.

*Just bought Firefly on DVD*

*Can't watch it until I've given it to my sister as a Christmas present and waited until she's done with it*

sprunkner · Post by **sprunkner** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 10:29 pm

Fillion's on Buffy?

Speaking as someone who is watching "Becoming," (the season 2 finale) tonight, what can you tell me without giving too much away? I love the guy. He's an amazing actor.

Will someone who lives closer than I do loan Besty a freakin' copy of Firefly so he can be cool?

bobaprime85 · Post by **bobaprime85** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 11:59 pm

Metal Vendetta wrote:
Eline wrote:And the musical episode aswell, maybe some day soon?
You've not seen the musical episode?!?

Shame on you, Dylan. It's 45 minutes of genius from start to finish.

They got.... the mustard.... ooouuuuutttttt!

Oh, so many to choose from.

Bender · Post by **Bender** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 1:05 am

sprunkner wrote:Fillion's on Buffy?

Speaking as someone who is watching "Becoming," (the season 2 finale) tonight, what can you tell me without giving too much away? I love the guy. He's an amazing actor.

Will someone who lives closer than I do loan Besty a freakin' copy of Firefly so he can be cool?

What can we tell you without spoiling things? At the moment, nothing much other than that Fillion plays a villain named Caleb, a fallen minister.

In my opinion, telling you much more would ruin too much that you haven't yet seen.

Look forward to season three, though; I think it's one of the best seasons, with "The Zeppo" being a personal favorite episode.

Post by **Best First** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 10:06 am

Uhhhhhh....

i watch Firefly. in about 3 days, natch.

Its sooooo good. Its definietly a slightly stronger first season than Buffy (well, assuming it continued its trend of quality to the end of the seson) - the contained atmosphere of Serenity gives it a bit more focus.

Great cast, great stories, great premise and a really fit hooker. oh, and I fancy teh arse off Kaylee.

Stupid ****ig TV execs. utter arseholes.

Galvatron91 · Post by **Galvatron91** » Sat Jan 08, 2005 2:00 am

Dylan wrote:Oh wait, tha'ts not true. I'm actually starting to like Buffy. Well, the series that is. The character is still quite annoying.

That's nothing new...she's been a **** to every guy who has ever cared about her. She ignored Xander's feelings, pissed on Angel constantly, drove Riley back to the military and treated Spike like a pile of dog poo. Personally, one of my favorite scenes involving Buffy didn't even take place on Buffy. It occured in the episode called Sanctuary during Season 1 of Angel. Buffy goes all high and mighty on Angel for trying to help Faith and Angel gives her the greatest lines ever spoken to Buffy.

Angel: "Buffy, this wasn't about you! This was about saving somebody's soul. That's what I do here, and you're not a part of it. - That was your idea, remember? We stay away from each other."

Then after Buffy spouts off about Riley: "That's great. - It's nice - you moved on. - I can't. You found someone new. - I'm not allowed to, remember? I see you again it cuts me up inside and the person I share that with is me! You don't know me anymore. So don't come down here with your great new life and *expect* me to do things your way. - Go home!"

ahhh...happy days!

Optimus Prime Rib · Post by **Optimus Prime Rib** » Sat Jan 08, 2005 2:40 am

Galvatron91 wrote: pissed on Angel constantly

some guys pay extra for that..

Galvatron91 · Post by **Galvatron91** » Sun Jan 09, 2005 12:19 am

Optimus Prime Rib wrote:
Galvatron91 wrote: pissed on Angel constantly
some guys pay extra for that..

that's true...and it usually gets put on a website featuring Cartmen's mom!