So, like Autocracy or whatever.

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So, like Autocracy or whatever.

Post by DJ_Convoy » Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:49 pm

It dropped on Comixology today. 99 cents an issue; 12 issues, one every two weeks.

It was alright, I guess. I can pretty much guarantee that this will look better on your preferred digital reading device of choice because it was created that way and correctly calibrated. IDW almost always prints their comics too dark, and Livio's stuff probably needs some TLC at the print shop to look it's best. My main complaint about TDoOP was how damned dark and murky it was...

Did I like it enough to come back? I dunno. The price point is okay (I guess- about what 4 or 5 issues of the actual comic would cost me subscribing thru mailorder)... the content was there... it was technically competent (altho' Livio has a long way to go in story telling clarity. Still. Brighter monitors and glowy eyes and War of Cybertron-y bits do nothing to improve storytelling clarity)... but it didn't really move me. In fact, it sort of put me down a cynical path that I won't spell out here... because I'm trying to be positive about IDW's take on the brand... but having been burnt by them in various ways in the past, I couldn't help but to draw a fairly cynical conclusion about this project.

Anyway... if they can somehow figure out how to calibrate this for print sometime, and the price isn't crazy, then I might check the rest of it out.

What'chu think?
For now, it seems like IDW wants my money.

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Post by Reflex » Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:00 pm

I prefer to have actual pages to turn.

I will start a war when they tell me I can't have my books anymore and try to burn my library.

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Post by DJ_Convoy » Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:13 pm

But then your glasses will break, like the Twilight Zone guy.


IRONY!!!!111!1
For now, it seems like IDW wants my money.

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Post by Reflex » Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:22 am

Good thing I usually resort to plastic cups.

I didn't quite realize Autocracy was also an issue until today... thought it was more of a online comic system exclusively for TF comics.
Only because I didn't really pay attention to it.

Glad we're getting a solid history on the current story line!
Hope they don't cheap out and force the online exclusive issue.
Looking forward to the TPB.



Whoa. Is that not an amazing pun?

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Post by Impactor returns 2.0 » Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:16 pm

So, ive just read the first 3 issues, what can I say?

Same tired ground trodden on again, the writing is pretty average and the art, well I like the style but like many modern comics the action sequences are useless.

Got no idea what the point of this comic is, Prime is Orion at the moment, and hes a security officer bringing down the evil Decepticons who are compared to a terrorist unit etc...

The only interesting bit is the current Prime has been given a weapon by Jihauxus that leaches life from one TF (killing them) and then expels the energy like a gun.
The Prime tells the senate hes going to kill all the Cons by using his leach gun on the nobody TF of the Cybertron.

OUTRAGE!

So, whos really bad, ooo is it the Cons, or the Bots?!... boring...
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Post by DJ_Convoy » Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:15 pm

[cynicism]The point is that IDW saw that we liked Chaos Theory, and wanted to commission more stuff during the early days of the war, regardless of if it fits in or not.[/cynicism]
For now, it seems like IDW wants my money.

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Post by Mr_Tigg » Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:02 pm

I've downloaded all the issues and found it thus far rather *****!

The only interesting element is Zeta Prime's character - claiming to be the monster needed to destroy the 'monster' of the decepticon threat.

Bit confused by IDWs order of Prime's, as Nominus is mentioned as Zeta's predecessor, so I guess he's two after Sentinel?

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Post by Sunyavadin » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:24 pm

Has to go Sentinel, Nominus, Zeta. Can't go any other way without gaping plot holes appearing.
Meaning Nominus has to have been pretty damn crap to last such a short space of time, but whatever. Kind of bigs up Megs, if he can present a list of primes like that as all being dead by his hands.
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Post by Warcry » Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:31 am

Sunyavadin wrote:Has to go Sentinel, Nominus, Zeta. Can't go any other way without gaping plot holes appearing.
That doesn't work either, though. Nominus Prime went missing in Optimus's flashback during Chaos Theory, so he was a pre-war Prime. Which means that Sentinel now looks really bad. If he was the next Prime after Nominus, he would've been in charge from just after Chaos Theory until Megatron: Origin. I don't know that a timeline was ever established, but how long could that gap reasonably be? A few years, maybe?

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Post by Reflex » Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:53 am

More confusion?
More missing details and not filling in gaps?

Really?

Well, I guess the trailer really does just dissappear then. No other explaination for it.

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Post by Best First » Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:58 am

The whole role of the Prime is a right mess as well - no one seems to have a clue what this actually means.

Sentinel doesn't seem to have been much more than a chief of police (who isn't allowed access to his own weapons for some reason)(the reason being vwapp! vwapp! ima taking them anyway cos i am badass).

The others seem to have more statelike roles.
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Post by bumblemusprime » Fri Dec 28, 2012 5:23 pm

Got this in the stocking and read it.

By the end I was enjoying it. It doesn't hold up to Roberts' stuff, but it is a fairly thrilling, if cartoony, adventure. It was nice to see an origin for Hot Rod that doesn't have him as a young punk. The IDW Hot Rod/Rodimus is really a stellar character.

Two major complaints:

The art. Oh come on, seriously? Flint Dille is writing a TF comic and IDW won't tap Casey or Don, whose art looks like a deeper, richer version of the cartoon? The action is hard to follow. Moody bits, like Zeta towering menacingly over the Senate, work. Action doesn't.

The final showdown. A word-by-word recall of the 1986 movie is the kind of wank that Brad Mick would have done. Flint Dille and Metzen should have been creative enough to come up with another defining battle. Simon has done two earthshaking Megs/Prime faceoffs without having to retread the material we all know so well. Look at the depth of their conversations in Chaos Theory, which Metzen references many times in his intro.
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Post by Computron » Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:00 am

After a hiatus from comics in general I saw this on sale and picked it up.

I wish I hadn't. When Prime's grand plan was to march in a tightly packed formation up main street to oust Megatron I just about quit reading and when Metzen decided to copy shot for shot the 86 movie I came to the conclusion that this must be parody.

It isnt parody is it?

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Post by Best First » Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:44 am

Its freaking Computron!!

But MTMTE not this you total peanut.
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Post by Computron » Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:45 pm

Best First wrote:Its freaking Computron!!

But MTMTE not this you total peanut.
I refuse to be held accountable for my ignorance. ;)

But I will go pick that up instead.
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Post by Shanti418 » Fri Mar 08, 2013 6:15 pm

bumblemusprime wrote:Got this in the stocking and read it.

By the end I was enjoying it. It doesn't hold up to Roberts' stuff, but it is a fairly thrilling, if cartoony, adventure. It was nice to see an origin for Hot Rod that doesn't have him as a young punk. The IDW Hot Rod/Rodimus is really a stellar character.
I agree with this - bought Auto a while back but only got around to reading it during a recent flight to Boston. It's the kind of story that doesn't floor you, but it's the story of Orion becoming Optimus, Megatron beginning his war, etc. I guess it's kind of like Revenge of the Sith: it all could have been better, but at least you can go, "Ah, that's how that happened. Alright then."

And I picked up the first issue of Monstrosity. (Summary: Optimus is Barack Obama, Dai Atlas has a cameo, Scorpy's in charge of the Deceps and throws Megatron out into space which of course leads to him landing on Junkion). It was all OK until that end part. I hates me some Junkion. Junkion is just above Wheelie and just below Sharkticons in terms of "Things from the Movie that I Wish People Would Burn And Forget About"
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Post by Sunyavadin » Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:42 pm

Shanti418 wrote: I hates me some Junkion. Junkion is just above Wheelie and just below Sharkticons in terms of "Things from the Movie that I Wish People Would Burn And Forget About"
I only just realised last night, when my girlfriend finally got as far into the continuity as Heart of Darkness (She made it through all four issues, only once asking me to kill her, on the promise that she will get to read MTMTE #1 by the end of the week) that a bunch of Junkions get a cameo in one frame of one issue.

I swear by the time I got past issue 2, I wasn't even registering the art at all, I was skimming the dialogue and trying my best not to look at all the derpfaces and poorly crayon-drawn panels, and GALVATRON'S EXPONENTIALLY SHRINKING HEAD AND TINY HANDS, so I totally missed the Junkion cameo in there.

So yeah. Those dudes exist in the main IDW-verse too. Sorta.
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Post by Shanti418 » Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:43 pm

Sunyavadin wrote: So yeah. Those dudes exist in the main IDW-verse too. Sorta.
So do they have some schtick here in IDW-verse that's not all facial hair and TV quotes?
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Post by Computron » Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:10 pm

Best First wrote:Its freaking Computron!!

But MTMTE not this you total peanut.
So yea MTMTE is fantastic. About halfway through the run and I am enjoying it immensely. I feel like the tone os perfect, the characterization is beautiful and Magnusvision, heck anything to do with Magnus is hilarious.

Also Swerve and Whirl. Holy crap now thats comedy.

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