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by Bouncelot
Sat Jul 29, 2006 6:33 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Bible Justice, Mmmmmmmmmmm-mm!
Replies: 69
Views: 3999

Only somebody who would be seen as symbolic of perfection. It's hardly racial purity to have one job in the entire country like that. No dogs, no blacks, no Irish. That's not even remotely a fair comparison. It's one job that requires somebody who can symbolise perfection in certain rituals. Which ...
by Bouncelot
Sat Jul 29, 2006 5:54 pm
Forum: Tomb of Relics
Topic: ALL religions make me want to throw up...
Replies: 288
Views: 44038

I think partly, any correlation is likely to be more obvious when somebody is prayed for in their presence. In many cases, being prayed for in person is the first case where somebody is actually prayed for. Remote prayer is more often an ongoing thing when God hasn't immediately healed somebody. It...
by Bouncelot
Sat Jul 29, 2006 4:53 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Religous Wars!
Replies: 119
Views: 5890

Thought I'd deal with a couple of points left unanswered. Not sure I agree with your reasoning there Jets. I'm sure it's pure coincidence that the Nazis had a religious symbol as their logo, one based around a cross no less. I'm sure it's also pure coincidence that their ideal physique was based aro...
by Bouncelot
Tue Jul 25, 2006 8:55 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Religous Wars!
Replies: 119
Views: 5890

Taking away religion isnt going to end violence, of course not, ppl dissagree all the time and that can lead to confrontation but religion is a motivator like no other, and currently it can motivate entire races of ppl to war, its hard to see anything else on earth that can stir up the same violenc...
by Bouncelot
Tue Jul 25, 2006 8:30 pm
Forum: Tomb of Relics
Topic: ALL religions make me want to throw up...
Replies: 288
Views: 44038

You mean in their absence I assume? I don't see why praying for someone in their presence or absence would make any difference if prayer was truly the means to that person's recovery. Prayer is prayer, surely? If God fancies healing that person then he'll do so. When people prayed for in their pres...
by Bouncelot
Tue Jul 25, 2006 7:36 pm
Forum: Tomb of Relics
Topic: ALL religions make me want to throw up...
Replies: 288
Views: 44038

I wouldn't say horribly corrupted , as you do, because much of Islam and Christianity teach the same. The Ten Commandments, treatment of others, treatment of parents. etc. They are not so different. In fact, I will find you verses in the Bible that advocate hijab , the head covering for women. Yet,...
by Bouncelot
Tue Jul 25, 2006 7:16 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Bible Justice, Mmmmmmmmmmm-mm!
Replies: 69
Views: 3999

And not discriminatition, then. Only someone "perfect" could be the high priest? Sounds like racial purity to me. Only somebody who would be seen as symbolic of perfection. It's hardly racial purity to have one job in the entire country like that. Nasty stuff like discrimination? Get away, unclean ...
by Bouncelot
Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:24 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Bible Justice, Mmmmmmmmmmm-mm!
Replies: 69
Views: 3999

You say Mosiac law wasn’t condoning the ‘nasty stuff’ (although exceptions like, hmm, conquering nations (that just happen to be nearby, so convenient) are ok by you), but how can the notion of ‘not condoning nasty stuff’ apply to, to pluck a few: - Handicapped people could not approach god. Their ...
by Bouncelot
Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:15 pm
Forum: Tomb of Relics
Topic: ALL religions make me want to throw up...
Replies: 288
Views: 44038

Yeah, but if He's going to allow Jesus' message to be altered to something completely different to what Jesus actually said by the only people who ever heard it, what was the point of sending Him in the first place? It's an Islamic doctrine that really doesn't seem to make sense, given that you als...
by Bouncelot
Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:15 pm
Forum: Tomb of Relics
Topic: ALL religions make me want to throw up...
Replies: 288
Views: 44038

Oops. Double post. So I'll edit out my reply to Yaya and reply to a more throwaway comment or two by Impy about holy books being written centuries after the event. The New Testament was not written centuries after the event. The gospels were all written well within living memory, some of them by peo...
by Bouncelot
Sun Jul 16, 2006 10:03 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Bible Justice, Mmmmmmmmmmm-mm!
Replies: 69
Views: 3999

oh, ok, so pre his new favourite group of people God was pro all kinds of nasty sh*t, but its ok that God was pro all this stuff that he later says is wrong (being infinite and eternal as he is...) because things like rape and genocide can be justified "in context", and also its ok because its 'non...
by Bouncelot
Sun Jul 16, 2006 9:36 pm
Forum: Tomb of Relics
Topic: ALL religions make me want to throw up...
Replies: 288
Views: 44038

So Muslims believe that God allowed His message to be completely corrupted by the very people who heard it firsthand. We are talking about the same God who allows others acts of evil, like murder, rape, theft,etc to happen, right? Yeah, but if He's going to allow Jesus' message to be altered to som...
by Bouncelot
Sun Jul 16, 2006 8:49 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Bible Justice, Mmmmmmmmmmm-mm!
Replies: 69
Views: 3999

er, and that sentance means what exactly? That the Bible specifically says that that stuff isn't binding on Christians. also, is your contention that God was just kind of chucking random stuff out there until he sent Jesus along? No, but the Mosaic Law was intended for the circumstances of the peop...
by Bouncelot
Thu Jul 13, 2006 8:12 pm
Forum: Tomb of Relics
Topic: ALL religions make me want to throw up...
Replies: 288
Views: 44038

Let's not forget that Muslims believe a Bible was revealed to Jesus Christ, which like the Koran, taught belief in One God. In essence, Islam teaches that those called Christians of that time were in fact equivalent to Muslims today. However, regarding the religion of Christianity we know today, Mu...
by Bouncelot
Thu Jul 13, 2006 7:25 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Dr Who episodes!
Replies: 446
Views: 45755

I thought it was mint. I'm not a massive who expert or fan but I think it's a very good show. Looking at a lot of the hardcore Who fans, there seem to be a farily sizable (or at least vocal) portion of bitter twisted **** that want to rip the piss out of the series, esp a lot of the 'artistic licen...
by Bouncelot
Thu Jul 13, 2006 7:18 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Bible Justice, Mmmmmmmmmmm-mm!
Replies: 69
Views: 3999

no no no. you can only take ceratin bits of the Bible literally. the bits that suit you. At that particular time. The rest is, like, a metaphor and mistranslated. and er, other mitigating stuff. Um, it's worth pointing out that pretty much all of the stuff in the article is taken from the Mosaic La...
by Bouncelot
Sun Jul 09, 2006 10:43 pm
Forum: Tomb of Relics
Topic: ALL religions make me want to throw up...
Replies: 288
Views: 44038

For more examples see my response to Impy's post. It's remarkable how often such massive changes in peoples' conditions co-incincide exactly with people being prayed for. I already did and answered it :3 In short, given the sheer number of religious people and the sheer number of people in the worl...
by Bouncelot
Sat Jul 08, 2006 1:54 pm
Forum: Tomb of Relics
Topic: ALL religions make me want to throw up...
Replies: 288
Views: 44038

And who works righteousness, male or female , and is a faithful one, so We will give them life a good life, and We will pay them their wages for the most beautiful of what they were working (16:97) Find me a book from 1400 years ago that specifically mentions men and women on equal ground, with equ...
by Bouncelot
Sat Jul 08, 2006 1:36 pm
Forum: Tomb of Relics
Topic: ALL religions make me want to throw up...
Replies: 288
Views: 44038

Well, yes, there could be different explanations for many healings. Take an example I heard today. A lady in my church had had a bone in her elbow break many years ago, it hadn't been spotted at the time, and had healed badly - sticking out in a way that gave her lots of trouble. Last week she had ...
by Bouncelot
Sat Jul 08, 2006 12:34 pm
Forum: Tomb of Relics
Topic: ALL religions make me want to throw up...
Replies: 288
Views: 44038

As I've been away this week, I've got a fair bit to catch up on... I dont belive in miracles in any way shape or form. everything can be explained using science. And one other thing - how do u know God di it and not the flying speghtti monster, im serious, prove me wrong.... U cant prove it, thats t...
by Bouncelot
Sun Jul 02, 2006 8:31 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Dr Who episodes!
Replies: 446
Views: 45755

Rose probably doesn't die. Since Piper is signed up to do the Third Dr. Who series, and in any case it wouldn't fit in with the ethos of the RT Davis series, we can assume she probably gets through it in one bit but has to be 'left behind' somehow. She won't however be in the Christmas Special (app...
by Bouncelot
Sun Jul 02, 2006 8:29 pm
Forum: Tomb of Relics
Topic: ALL religions make me want to throw up...
Replies: 288
Views: 44038

Even with snipping bits this is starting to look horribly large. Ah yes, I've heard much of this before. If this is indeed the case, why don't we hear of it outside its own (biased) circles? I know from first hand experience that some (particularly evangelical) churches will swear blind that impossi...
by Bouncelot
Sun Jul 02, 2006 1:10 pm
Forum: Tomb of Relics
Topic: ALL religions make me want to throw up...
Replies: 288
Views: 44038

There are a whole host of reasons why I believe what I do. I believe Christianity to be true based on my personal study of it and my experience of it, and the effect I see it having on people I know. I can think of lots of people I know who have been utterly tranformed by Christianity, I've seen an...
by Bouncelot
Sun Jul 02, 2006 12:30 pm
Forum: Tomb of Relics
Topic: ALL religions make me want to throw up...
Replies: 288
Views: 44038

His version may have been the best preserved version, but there's no way to be certain given that the variants no longer exist to compare. That's because you do not know the character of Othman, who was one of the greatest of the Prophet's (PBUH) companions. And if what you say is true, why then ha...
by Bouncelot
Sun Jul 02, 2006 12:10 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Dr Who episodes!
Replies: 446
Views: 45755

Rose probably doesn't die. Since Piper is signed up to do the Third Dr. Who series, and in any case it wouldn't fit in with the ethos of the RT Davis series, we can assume she probably gets through it in one bit but has to be 'left behind' somehow. She won't however be in the Christmas Special (app...
by Bouncelot
Mon Jun 26, 2006 9:14 pm
Forum: Tomb of Relics
Topic: ALL religions make me want to throw up...
Replies: 288
Views: 44038

Looks to me like Uthman destroyed variant readings of the Qur'an after Mohammed had died. What guaruntee have we got that Uthman preserved the correct version? How do we know that the objectors weren't right about Uthman? His version may have been the best preserved version, but there's no way to b...
by Bouncelot
Mon Jun 26, 2006 9:10 pm
Forum: Tomb of Relics
Topic: ALL religions make me want to throw up...
Replies: 288
Views: 44038

There are a whole host of reasons why I believe what I do. I believe Christianity to be true based on my personal study of it and my experience of it, and the effect I see it having on people I know. I can think of lots of people I know who have been utterly tranformed by Christianity, I've seen an...
by Bouncelot
Mon Jun 26, 2006 8:50 pm
Forum: Tomb of Relics
Topic: ALL religions make me want to throw up...
Replies: 288
Views: 44038

Caliph Othman was a companion who lived during the time of the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). Othman simply brought it together in one text instead of several. So the Koran today is the same Koran that existed during the life of the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). To the dot. Hm, contrast that with Uthman is pe...
by Bouncelot
Mon Jun 26, 2006 8:17 pm
Forum: Tomb of Relics
Topic: ALL religions make me want to throw up...
Replies: 288
Views: 44038

So much to respond to. I'll have to break it up into a couple of posts. God is a person er, how so? there's loads of whacky stuff flying around this topic now but this one in particular caught my eye. Surely a source of infinite justice, wisdom, etc would be beyond the notion of a personality? Perso...
by Bouncelot
Mon Jun 26, 2006 4:53 pm
Forum: Tomb of Relics
Topic: ALL religions make me want to throw up...
Replies: 288
Views: 44038

Thought I'd have a go at your list as well. What does your God do all day? Well, He doesn't exactly exist within the bounds of time, but He does make sure that each day actually happens. Where does he live? The nearest He has to a home is heaven, a spiritual (i.e. not physical) place where He is mor...